The Two Outsiders In Podcast
We are Shachar and Liisa, a Jewish Israeli and a Finnish Christian, both living with our (separate) families in Budapest, Hungary. We are close friends who found each other through music, but bonded over the love of Israel. We are here to talk about life, faith, family and future hope as outsiders in Hungary but also in the world. From our personalities to our passions, we’re laying the foundation and bringing you into our world. And we don't always agree about everything.
Whether you’re here for stories, insight, or just good vibes, we’re so excited to have you with us.
Let’s begin this journey—together.
We are Shachar and Liisa, a Jewish Israeli and a Finnish Christian, both living with our (separate) families in Budapest, Hungary. We are close friends who found each other through music, but bonded over the love of Israel. We are here to talk about life, faith, family and future hope as outsiders in Hungary but also in the world. From our personalities to our passions, we’re laying the foundation and bringing you into our world. And we don't always agree about everything.
Whether you’re here for stories, insight, or just good vibes, we’re so excited to have you with us.
Let’s begin this journey—together.
Episodes

Oct 13, 2025
Oct 13, 2025
45 min
Two years has passed since the terrible attacks took place in Israel in Oct 7th. Join us as we mark the second anniversary of the event. We'll be discussing the personal and global implications as an Israeli Jew who lost his uncle in the aftermath, and as a Christian who feels deeply for her Jewish friends and community.
Shachar will share his thoughts on safety, identity, and community in today's world, and Liisa offers her perspective on the current global atmosphere and her thoughts on the situation. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation about faith, hope, and the human experience. Is there anything that we as the world and as a community can learn from all of this?
Oct 13, 2025
45 min

Sep 29, 2025
Sep 29, 2025
46 min
In this episode, Shachar and Liisa engage in a thoughtful discussion about the recent passing of Charlie Kirk, sharing their reflections on the news and its impact.
They also continue their conversation from the previous episode, delving deeper into the significance of Israel's existence as a nation and exploring the relevance of the Jewish people from both biblical and contemporary perspectives.
Sep 29, 2025
46 min

Sep 15, 2025
Sep 15, 2025
52 min
In this episode we're diving deep into the big F-word: Faith.
What is faith to a Christian woman and to a secular Jew? Is there God or isn't there? How do we know?
Can any relatability be found?
Join us for an intimate conversation as Liisa and Shachar open up about their personal beliefs and experiences, with Shachar probing deeper into Liisa's views with some really tough questions.
Sep 15, 2025
52 min

Sep 1, 2025
Sep 1, 2025
38 min
This week we are continuing on the difficult topic of antisemitism.
Join us for a candid conversation with Liisa as she shares her thoughts and experiences on the current state of antisemitism as she sees it. In this episode, Liisa opens up about her personal encounters and reflections on the rising tide of hatred and prejudice, and why she is pro-Israel. With a mix of personal anecdotes and thoughtful insights, Liisa offers a unique perspective on a complex issue. Tune in for an intimate and thought-provoking discussion.
Sep 1, 2025
38 min

Aug 18, 2025
Aug 18, 2025
1 hr 3 min
In this compelling episode, Shachar shares his personal perspective as a former Israeli soldier on the ongoing conflict between Israel and Gaza, highlighting the current war's complexities and human impact. Living in Budapest, Hungary, he also address the disturbing rise of antisemitism across Europe, especially in the context of rising tensions and global instability. This is a crucial conversation about security, identity, and the enduring struggle for peace in the Middle East. Tune in to explore these hot-button issues affecting Israel, Gaza, and Jewish communities worldwide
Aug 18, 2025
1 hr 3 min

Aug 5, 2025
Aug 5, 2025
47 min
In this episode we go deep. it's time to hear Liisa's story, honest and full of heart. Liisa open up about her roots in a way that's both personal and powerful. it's not always easy to revisit the past, but through vulnerability and reflection, we find connection. Tune in for a real conversation about identity, resilience , and the moments that makes us who we are.
Aug 5, 2025
47 min

Jul 21, 2025
Jul 21, 2025
42 min
In this episode, we’re taking you way back. We open up about our personal journeys, diving into the stories that shaped us—our childhoods, family dynamics, and the pivotal moments that made us who we are today. It’s raw, it’s real, and maybe even a little funny. now we would focus on Shachar's Childhood, Join us as we reflect on where we came from, and how those early experiences continue to influence our lives, passions, and perspectives. This is the heart behind the mic.
Jul 21, 2025
42 min

Jul 7, 2025
Jul 7, 2025
54 min
Welcome to the very first episode of our podcast! In this kickoff, we’re pulling back the curtain and letting you get to know the voices behind the mic. Who are we? Why did we start this podcast? And what can you expect in the episodes to come? We’ll share our backgrounds, what drives us, and the vision behind this show. Whether you’re here for inspiration, insight, or just good conversation, we’re excited to have you along for the ride. Let’s get started!
Jul 7, 2025
54 min





